Om inte annat så har man lärt sig försöka :-) //Erik * ************************************************************* Link to **EDRi-gram 11.12**:* http://edri.org/edrigram/number11.12/no-acccess-ACTA-documents Still no access to ACTA documents Today, 19 June 2013, the European Commission answered within the time limit it had set for itself to answer to DFRI's requests for ACTA documents. On 29 May 2013 the Commission extended the time limit with 15 working days arguing the "new time limit" was statutory under Article 7(3) of Regulation (EC) No 1049/2001. The Commission explained it had to extend the period by 15 working days because its reply to DFRI was "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" and that "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" is an "exceptional case" under the same article. The answer EDRi member DFRI received today was not signed by anyone but the sender of the email. Neither did it contain any ACTA documents. The Commission argues that: "The question of the Court to the Commission, being a procedural document, does not fall within the scope of Regulation 1049/2001 as Article 15(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFUE) specifies that the Court is only subject to obligations on Transparency when exercising their administrative tasks. This has as consequence that the document itself can't be disclosed by the Commission." Email from European Commission refusing disclosure of ACTA documents (19.06.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-response-2013-06-19.txt Email from European Commission extending deadline (29.05.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-extending-deadline-2013-05-29.txt All ACTA documents @ DFRI website https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/ (Contribution by EDRi member DFRI - Sweden)
Ett mkt gott försök! ...men jag kan inte bli annat än rädd när jag tänker på att det här är ska vara ett exempel på transparens. /Jonas On 2013-06-19 21:15, Erik Josefsson wrote:
Om inte annat så har man lärt sig försöka :-) //Erik * ************************************************************* Link to **EDRi-gram 11.12**:* http://edri.org/edrigram/number11.12/no-acccess-ACTA-documents
Still no access to ACTA documents
Today, 19 June 2013, the European Commission answered within the time limit it had set for itself to answer to DFRI's requests for ACTA documents. On 29 May 2013 the Commission extended the time limit with 15 working days arguing the "new time limit" was statutory under Article 7(3) of Regulation (EC) No 1049/2001. The Commission explained it had to extend the period by 15 working days because its reply to DFRI was "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" and that "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" is an "exceptional case" under the same article.
The answer EDRi member DFRI received today was not signed by anyone but the sender of the email. Neither did it contain any ACTA documents.
The Commission argues that: "The question of the Court to the Commission, being a procedural document, does not fall within the scope of Regulation 1049/2001 as Article 15(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFUE) specifies that the Court is only subject to obligations on Transparency when exercising their administrative tasks. This has as consequence that the document itself can't be disclosed by the Commission."
Email from European Commission refusing disclosure of ACTA documents (19.06.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-response-2013-06-19.txt
Email from European Commission extending deadline (29.05.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-extending-deadline-2013-05-29.txt
All ACTA documents @ DFRI website https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/
(Contribution by EDRi member DFRI - Sweden)
Jo. Lite lurigt det där med att det tydligen finns "procedural documents". Man skulle kunna fråga domstolen om ""the Court has notified the Parliament of its question to the Commission in case A-1/12?"" för att fuskcitera lite ur korrespondensen med dubbeldubbelfnuttar. Och exakt när. Tycker nämligen det här låter konstigt: *"In the present case, this transmission did not occur due to the withdraw of the request for opinion by the Commission."** * Som jag tolkar det försöker kommissionen säga att domstolen inte skickat nåt till parlamentet trots att kommissionen redan sagt i E-000018/2013 att dokumentet DFRI frågar efter "have been served also on the European Parliament". Sen undrar jag om domstolen verkligen skulle kommunicera med en enskild part i ett sånt här case? Tycker det låter konstigt i sig, men väldigt underligt om domstolen kände till kommissionens tvärsäkra påstående: *"A negative vote will not stop the proceedings before the Court of Justice."** * Domstolen framstår ju nästan som sinnessvag om den skulle ha frågat kommissionen om parlamentets nej på något sätt påverkat kommissionens beslut att driva ACTA-caset när kommissionen redan sagt att kommissionen kommer att driva ACTA-caset oavsett vad parlamentet säger. Nej, lite basics borde man nog kolla upp: 1) existerar dokumentet "question to the Commission in case A-1/12"? 2) är det dokumentet ett "procedural document" eller är det dokument av någon annan typ? 3) har domstolen skickat det till Europaparlamentet? Till vem där? När? 4) har domstolen skickat det till Europaparlamentet? Till vem där? När? Sen kan man ju alltid lägga till om kommissionen frågat domstolen om lov att publicera dokumentet. Det står i fördragen att EU ska "utföra sitt arbete så öppet som möjligt" och i förordningen om tillgång handlingar står det EU ska "bistå medborgare som önskar utöva sina rättigheter". Man kunde ju tycka att det borde löna sig för kommissionen att hjälpa till istället för att krångla. //Erik On 06/21/2013 04:19 PM, Jonas Sissokho wrote:
Ett mkt gott försök! ...men jag kan inte bli annat än rädd när jag tänker på att det här är ska vara ett exempel på transparens. /Jonas
On 2013-06-19 21:15, Erik Josefsson wrote:
Om inte annat så har man lärt sig försöka :-) //Erik * ************************************************************* Link to **EDRi-gram 11.12**:* http://edri.org/edrigram/number11.12/no-acccess-ACTA-documents
Still no access to ACTA documents
Today, 19 June 2013, the European Commission answered within the time limit it had set for itself to answer to DFRI's requests for ACTA documents. On 29 May 2013 the Commission extended the time limit with 15 working days arguing the "new time limit" was statutory under Article 7(3) of Regulation (EC) No 1049/2001. The Commission explained it had to extend the period by 15 working days because its reply to DFRI was "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" and that "circulating for signature by the hierarchy" is an "exceptional case" under the same article.
The answer EDRi member DFRI received today was not signed by anyone but the sender of the email. Neither did it contain any ACTA documents.
The Commission argues that: "The question of the Court to the Commission, being a procedural document, does not fall within the scope of Regulation 1049/2001 as Article 15(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFUE) specifies that the Court is only subject to obligations on Transparency when exercising their administrative tasks. This has as consequence that the document itself can't be disclosed by the Commission."
Email from European Commission refusing disclosure of ACTA documents (19.06.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-response-2013-06-19.txt
Email from European Commission extending deadline (29.05.2013) https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/EC-extending-deadline-2013-05-29.txt
All ACTA documents @ DFRI website https://www.dfri.se/wiki/ep-acta-docs/
(Contribution by EDRi member DFRI - Sweden)
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